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the States and never saw the daughter. The girl, Penny Lawrence, grew up and after her mother's death she set out to find her missing father. When they eventually met, reports The Sun's Dulcie Pearce, they "both felt an immediate sexual attraction."
She continues: "Within days they began an incestuous - and illegal - affair, though they each claim to be suffering from the psychological condition Genetic Sexual Attraction or GSA." Penny is 28 and Garry is 46, and they live as a couple. She is quoted as saying: "I'm in love with Garry and desperately want his baby. But we have agreed that if my three-month scan shows a birth defect, we will terminate the pregnancy."
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This relationship does not bother me, they are not harming anyone else in any way. Though having a baby is risky.
Are you crazy your moral line is clearly all over the place WTF
they are not harming anyone, they are not harming each other so if is acommon acord decision that doesn't harm the ones that agreed on it and those around is ok.
by the other hand the baby has seriously increased chances to have a genetical defects...
Urghh. That is all
this is really bullshit! hope less people and physco couple. they are sick.
What people do behind closed doors, I don't really care about but there have been a lot of stories like coming out of the woodwork, especially in magazines like Closer and Pick Me Up and all of them seem to blame this GSA..... it's almost like it's becoming an excuse to act as they please.
But whatever. I just hope that child doesn't have any birth defects because whilst I personally may not care, a lot of other people will and the child's going to suffer for it...
as a geneticist, I can already tell you this baby is going to had A LOT of health problems. its not even a question. you NEED genetic diversity to form a healthy embryo.
As a Brain Surgeon/Rocket Scientist, i know that this baby will like be well ill and stuff. On a serious note, thise saying they're not harming anyone are clearly not thinking about the unborn child.
If a 15 year old boy fall in loves with his teacher of 32 and the feelings are show back we don't seem to think its ok! Why is that?? They are not hurting anybody else.
Just to throw this out there, giiiipp... and as for the standard joke, i shagged your mum, he actually did, imagine falling in love with your mum or dad? There is a line and it's totally crossing it, they are so far past the line, they can't even see the line... minging ! :-)
I think its sick but only God can judge you
an immediate sexual attraction gave birth to this shit? are humans nothing more than sexual automatons now? incest is a total perversion of yourself and of your identity, and leaves you as a hollow sex shell. no matter how many people agree or disagree with this, it won't change shit about what's the truth, and it won't change God's mind. morality and truth aren't things that can be defined by human beings. otherwise, in a few hundred years time, it's possible that the holocaust will happen again, and everyone will it cheer it on, just cause the majority of the loudest shouting people banded together and decided it was the moral and right and acceptable thing to do. obviously, this is bullshit.
Its not the fact she is pregnant more that they had sex with each other knowing they were Father and Daughter, weird and sick I think, the poor kid when it grows up will get serious slagging if people find out. But in "love" with your Dad? seriously strange.
God (in my opinion (others are free to judge)) is merely an eliment of the human mind and so it is not a divinity that is judgeing the person it is ones self that is
It's actually not a huge deal. Just because we know their relationship, remember that he wasn't in her life at all. It's almost as if she's just meeting an older man. I do, however, think that all the tabloid attention will eventually cause harm.
Not to mention that, though the likelihood of a birth defect increases, it doesn't actually increase that much. Incest/inbreeding over one generation doesn't really pose that much risk. So long as their child doesn't fall in love with another family member, there shouldn't actually be any long term affects.
You'll terminate your baby if he/she has a birth defect???
cmon now, it's one thing if you guys are screwing up, but don't kill your baby because of that now. please.
Evan if they love each other they should think of the child, born with a defect or not this child will be bullied because they have let the tabloids publish it if they really loved each other and there child they should have kept there mouths shut, because of this I think there just a pair of attention seeking, money grabbing idiots!
It makes me sick....it's disgusting!!! Father and daughter having a f***ing child!!!!WTF...Can't the state stop this?? Are their families ok with this? that child's father and grand father is gonna be the same person...OMG!!!
Really people, let them live how they want. Half of British monarchs were inbred just to save the throne to the family, this is why Brits are ugly.
Because that teacher is abusing their position of trust and also at 15 the boy is underage. That's why its not ok.
Do you really think that god would condemn them for this? I think not and its not up to us to condemn them either. Its their choice.
Would you then give birth to a baby knowing that he or she would have to live a life of pain, or no independence or any thing like that? That, i believe, is cruel, to cause suffering to some body when you could change it.
Let's get this right... Father of daughter.. Daughter of Father.... Go and have a sexualy active reliationship together, and plan a child????? Now either i'm reading some of the comments wrong, or i've totally become alien to what family values mean. And does not include screwing your own daughter, WRONG WRONG WRONG, and did i mention WRONG.
Religion need not be mentioned it is irralavent.
Religion need not be mentioned it is irralavent.
All Americans eat is fast food. That is why they are fat.
Brits are ugly because the Royal family is inbred? Would that be the same family that are actually of German heritage? An English born Queen of German origin who married a Greek and sired children? One of whom married an English woman of nobility and sired a child who recently married a woman of non noble blood? See where this is going? So not only are they obviously not inbred in the past three generations to say the least, they are not actually representative of the UK population either.
And I'm guessing you're American? So you more than likely have some British heritage in your genes somewhere down the line. As with any nationality you go back far enough and the number of ethnic races which have been amalgamated into the gene pool is rich and diverse. It just so happens that in the USA there really isn't any real history or heritage other than the ancestors of the Clovis people who have been marginalised beyond all recognition. The massive amount of immigration in the State in the past few hundred years has resulted in a race of people with a very confused sense of identity, not many can actually claim to be culturally and genetically 'American' so the term more likely is best used as an idealistic concept.
Why you felt the need to lower a discussion to such guttural depths is probably only known by yourself. Sure there are ugly Brits, there are ugly every race. But how we define ugly is something which in part is based upon a persons compassion, upbringing, education and morals. For example, I find people who spout racist drivel much like yourself ugly because you are obviously lacking in any moral fibre. In your case physical attractiveness is not even considered because you display character defects which are simply ugly. As they say: beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Returning to the subject at hand, regardless of whether God exists, it is not God who will judge them, their child will. Even if they managed to have a perfectly healthy child in terms of physically (which is unlikely) that child will be damaged mentally from the moment it is born to the moment it dies. It will never have a grandfather in the true sense, it's mother will be its big sister, it's children will carry on the stigma, every partner it potentially wants to settle down with will need to be made aware of the situation and it will be haunted by it forever. It is the child I feel sorry for.
I wonder if they thought about how their baby would react (if they have a baby)when he/she finds out that his/her mum is his/her'd dad's daughter, and that the mother is actually his/her's sister as well... And how will other people around the baby (his/her's friends and community members) treat and react to him/her when they find out the truth about his/her's parents... A lot of big decisions to make for these two people.
Um honey religion needs to be mentioned. In gods eyes this is not okay. AT ALL. They know the possibility of defects with the baby and their doing it anyway? That should be considered child abuse, I hope DFS takes the baby away. He/she will NEVER have any quality of life.
Yea but this is incest and wrong. Both of them are wrong. Sick and twisted is what this is.
Okay people, some of you are saying that that they aren't harming anyone. But what about the baby? That is a human being we are talking about!!! How can they say that if there is a defect the will abort?! would you do that to a grown person?! This is just sick!!!!
Right this is disgusting
yes its weird, but if it's actually caused by a psychological defect you can't hold it against them, morality in this case is pretty simple, if they are both willing participants the relationship itsself is their choice and as others have said, harms nobody. the having of children is another matter due to the potential for birth defects, not garunteed, but possible and much more likley than without the inbreeding issue, but there are plenty of people out there with genetic issues that have greater chances who still manage to concive and raise families. the moral issue is much more of a social one due to most existing religious dogma being against it (i say most i'm willing to bet there is something in some religious text that would say this is ok)
somone said "what will the child say when they find out" that would depend if the parents were open from the start, if they were socialised seeing that as normal they wouldnt see it as an issue. as long as the parents can accept that there will be a serious social stigma behind public knowledge of this and take apropriate steps to keep it quiet then the child's quality of life could potentially be as good as anyones.
the thing to remember is that these 2 people are genetically related, but the daughter has not grown up with this man as a 'father figure'
yes it's strange because they know, but think, would anyone even comment if they were unaware they were related? considering the circumstances that could have ended up being the case
Imagine the child drawing his/her family tree at school... that would be one fucked up diagram...
Just a thought not everyone knows who their parent is and do what happens if say 2something people who had no clue they were either brother or sister or father and daughter etc. Fell in love and had a child. One if you would say anything and thinkbit was completely normal. U would not think twice yet they are telling you and you are flipping. I know the child could have pro lens but that's not a sure fact eitherit could cone out healthy. Think back to the Egyptians then had sex within the family and we thought that wasvok back then so who really can judge now. ? It has happened through history and in to biblical times no one can judge.
Maybe they are Christians. Incest is all over the bible. It was ok back then. Can't really say that God would judge them like everyone else is.
where in the bible does it say that this is wrong. I may not agree with it, but where does it say that this is wrong?
I agree. It's their lives and they're not harming anyone so why should we care.
ummmm I can see maybe falling in love with your cousin or more distant relative but even though they were separated for however long she is still HAVING SEX WITH HER FATHER. Even a satanist would have a problem with this... they say they are suffering from a mental disease and yet they choose to do nothing to recover from it? Yeah this is disgusting. Sorry for the rant.
They are harming the unborn fetus. I honestly do not approve of this myself. I wouldn't mind it so much, except for the fact that its now news where millions have now heard of or seen it which may put the idea that its okay to do what they are doing... If I had a daughter old enough to understand what this article meant and she found it online. I would be horrified. These are not the thoughts I would want going through my children's minds. If this couple chooses to do this very unusual act then they should keep it to themselves and not post it to the world.
mum be you sister and dad b ur grandfather thats twisted, as som1 else said they arent harming any1
The problem with the human race as a whole is that we are way too quick to judge. Things like this happen for a REASON. Population control. Let em do what they want. Just because you and I don't like it doesn't mean we should have any say in their personal lives. Incest is population control evolved naturally. The child will most likely have problems and may not reproduce. People seem to forget we're just intelligent mammals!!
fact: the child will be fucked up. if not physically or mentally, then simply by the fact that this childs father and grandfather are the same person.
by all means have your fucken sick relationship but don't bring a child into it!! fuck!!
Shet. Think about how that kids going to feel and what he/she is going to do when their older.
Idiots. :-(
Just fyi, "God made Adam an Eve" and they populated the earth, at some point in the offspring they must have mated with either mummy sisters. Noah is another example of this. So really Christians should believe incest is good as a lot of gods favourites seem to be doing it or into it.
Very well said!
From a fellow Brit x
This is pure madness an abomination in the sight of Heavenly Father. These people need. Serious help urgently...
What a stereotypical American answer. 'That's why Brits are ugly'. Anywho nobody is truly British or American or any nationality fully, were all mixed stop being to narrow minded. However on the matter of this artical, of course it is wrong. They clearly haven't had the relationship they needed to have and when they met didn't know how to express their love as they should. To quote a genius 'religion is the opium of the masses'. People need to pipe down about god. Because I'm sorry to tell you, but he doesn't exist. Rant over.
Heavenly father? I want his babies. Although they might have mental illness too, thinking they can walk on water and and heal the blind.
Just saw this posted by a friend on facebook and was appalled. I have been a victim of grooming by both my mother and father and forced by strong mental manipulation into relations between family members in the home. Im currently going through counselling to get my head around how much my life was messed up by this. Oh and a side note, im a Christian too. People have spoken about breaches of trust. No matter what, the person you're supposed to be able to trust fully are your parents. This man is sick and needs psychological help. He won't see it that way, but he has betrayed his daughter's trust massively. Getting her pregnant is just the worst way of showing her he loves her. Any advances if she came to him should have been shunned but explained. Thats love. And shame on all you who think this is ok. You clearly dont understand the mental trauma associated with these situations. This isn't a one off situation either. Just think of Joseph Fritzels family. Do you think They would think that this is ok???!!
This world is crazy with the most craziest people in it.
Yes this is sick. they knew they were father and daughter and should not hav entered into this knowing that and certainly shud not run the risk of creating a child knowing they could suffer for life!!
I actually know of a couple in a similar relationship... but the other way around. A woman (who I'll name Claire) who is the step-mother of a friend (I'll name Tanya), gave up a child for adoption when she was only young. Claire then married Tanya's father after his divorce. When Claire split from Tanya's father, she got together with a guy named (Tom). Tom revealed that he was adopted and about a year after they were together decided to go looking for his birth parents. It turned out that Claire was his birth mother. They decided that they weren't going to stop being together as they already had feelings for each other but Claire is nearly 50 now so children are out of the question. But I still can't get my head around the fact that they know what they are to each other and still have a sexual relationship...
Do they not care what kind of psychological effect this will have on their child? All through the child's life, it will bullied and taken the piss out of and thought of as weird! If you want to have a love affair with your dad, do so, but in private, not by making money out of publicising it, and don't bring a child into a world where they will be victimised because of it! Poor kid, I feel really sorry for that baby.
Do they not care what kind of psychological effect this will have on their child? All through the child's life, it will bullied and taken the piss out of and thought of as weird! If you want to have a love affair with your dad, do so, but in private, not by making money out of publicising it, and don't bring a child into a world where they will be victimised because of it! Poor kid, I feel really sorry for that baby.
Yup the child will be victimised...don't the comments make it clear that acceptance is a long way off.
Maybe publicising it wan't such a good idea
But maybe. i wasn't a choice...just a give-in.
So whatever
Chill people no ones asking you guys to go fuck your dads
But as long as its CONSENSUAL..what is the bloody problem...also as long as both the parties are adult!
why arent these people in prison? let alone able to have a child. Incest is illegal.
religion is all bullshit god will not judge them because he does not exist tbh i think the people preaching religion are on the same level of sick as these two, the world is full of idiots ready to kill their kids because they think the devil is inside them or some evil spirit is taking them, and are ready to blow up buildings in the name of someone who isn't real! there are more serious problems going on and you choose to complain about this, idiots
Hats off to you, glad to hear that there are some educated people out there.
I personally feel sorry for this child, when it is older and introduces his parents this is my dad and grandad and this is his daughter my mum, how awful is that, I no things are changing but this is why it's illegal, it's sick, however much we judge unfortantly it won't change a thing! People need be more aware of the actions of putting everything out there, they will get none stop greif for now on! I hope it was worth it!
However her mother must be turning in her grave, how could they think it was except able it's just disrespect to her mother, how I see it!
For everyone that wants to pressure their opinions in other people-go to hell with you're church bull. Its they life u can't change it so shut up..although going public is strange..
Ew i cant believe they published this to the world, they will find it harder to live a normal life and i cannot see how the child will ever accept the fact his sister is his mum and his dad is his grandad. Even if they dont tell him someone else surely will and the child could either think that dating your parent is right or will live in shame
I actually feel sick, this is incest, whether or not they've been apart for so many years before!
Does he not realise that he made her... so their kid will be her sister?
i feel so sorry for that baby urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Shit like this makes me sick. They should both be ashamed of them selves
People have the power to make their own decisions. Im not saying i condone this im just saying that we cant change their mind for them. But as i was reading throught the comments some good points were btought up like theyre not harming anyone, or why should we care but in all reality, look at the arguing its causing here and even though we shouldnt care everyone who says that cares enough to comment about it right? In my opinion i believe what they're doing is wrong. That is also the governments and God's opinion so i think ive got some pretty strong back up just sayin
personally I think it irresponsible to willingly risk a child with birth defects but I judge not for every man/woman's life is there own. Until there incestuous relationship raises the price of oil I don't think it matters at all to anyone other than the couple in question under these circumstance
personally I think it irresponsible to willingly risk a child with birth defects but I judge not for every man/woman's life is there own. Until there incestuous relationship raises the price of oil I don't think it matters at all to anyone other than the couple in question under these circumstance
personally I think it irresponsible to willingly risk a child with birth defects but I judge not for every man/woman's life is there own. Until there incestuous relationship raises the price of oil I don't think it matters at all to anyone other than the couple in question under these circumstance
And the mother is also going to be the child's half-sister. Yuck
I am a Kid caused through incest and my life is wonderfull. I just have to lie about my dad because many do not accept this. But I am happy to be alive an to be a part of life on earth!
putting aside the OBVIOUS line they are crossing there,and the fact that i just threw up in my mouth a little . the joke is when there having sex and she by chance Happens to yell "aw yeah , give it to me daddy!" she wont be wrong . ..whats sick is that it might just turn that guy on even more .
Never mind considering murder like it's no big deal, think of not only physical but the mental abuse. This poor, dear child doesn't stand a chance. How awful!
I don't agree with them having a baby because of the risks but they are not hurting any one else by being in a relationship...there comments are just another good example of how judgemental people can be
What's wrong, is wrong.
Be it you think that it is ok just because they don't harm anyone. Then you are just accepting what is wrong. Don't deny that.
However, they did harm someone. A life. A life that live the destiny to suffer the very moment he/she is born into this world. Don't deny that.
Christians or nots. Judgement or not. What is wrong, is wrong. Whoever don't think that this is wrong, i am sorry but your way of thinking is definitely wrong.
Truths are truths. No matter how many people disagree with it, it will always be the truth. Your opinion will not change the truth.
A mum who is ready to bear a 'faulty' baby and drop it anytime? What does she knows about love?
Treating your baby as a sole means to an end? What does she knows about love?
Through publicity, earning money, showing off such immoral acts to the public which will teach wrong values to our future generations? What does she knows about love?
Loving her father as a lover? Now, she definitely doesn't understand true love.
Whoever disagree with me, too bad. I will never ever read your comments to change my thinking anyways. I stand firm on what is right and i will not falter just because some people want to act as 'the good one' and says that it is normal for them to have such irresponsible and immoral relationship.
Well said!!!!!!!!!!
Now that was! worth reading. Totally agree
That is sick. And who cares if its their life. That don't make it right. I can't believe people could sit back and say ..well its their lives.. no its an unborn child that will suffer greatly. Because its parents are grose. Haha. What a great reunion between father and daughter...
Based on the argument that they're not harming anyone, we should all turn a blind eye to the 13yr old girl who gets shagged by the 49yr olf kiddie fiddler... Come on people thing about this. Laws exist for a reason, even if we don't agree with them. Charge both of them and send them to prison! And that's from a copper.
some people just dont get it. a womans relationship is based on the relationship she had with her father as a child. therefore she never grew up with a father figure in her life so she doesnt know how to seek attention from a guy the right way. she had mixed feelings and emotions and didnt know how to deal with them. i believe she was confused and she let her feelings take over instead of doin the right thing. she met her father and didnt know how to do with it and she felt all these feelings and thought it was sexual and lust feelings but she was just overwhelmed with feelings she thought it was love. instead of getting to know her father and love im like a daughter should love her father she fell in love and thats because she doesnt know how to love a man in any different way because she never had a father figure in her life. right now all they are thinking about is how they feel about each other and not thinking about the child and the childs reputation when he or she starts goin to school and being in public period. they are also not thinking about the childs health or well being. people can just be so caught up in theirselves they dont care about anybody else and how it would effect the baby and the people around them. i think the daughter has some seperation issues from her afther not being in her life and needs to seek some kinda help like counseling.
Oh please. People are making up all these diseases and sicknesses, I call them stupid excuses for being nasty. The father clearly is a pervert. What kind of father can look at their daughter and think anything sexual ... Seriously... I think we should make those ribbons , you know the ones they make for illness and such things, they should make one that says cause for idiots. ;)
The only reason why ppl think this is disgusting is because they grew up with their parents and/or follow social norms. Imagine they didn't know. That GSA thing is BS, smthing termed just to refer to smthing that happens which is socially unacceptable...and thus must be termed!~ Male+Female, that's what they are. I don't agree to it myself for several different reasons, but I want to make clear this doesn't surprise me for happening. The same should go for you! GSA is BS, this is normal in terms of human conditions.
Well said
...the mother is dead.
If it's really ok...take a second to put itself in that position....it is sick I have a daughter and I feel sick to the stomach even thinking about it...if they do hav a child that woman will realise and even if the child didn't hav mental illnesses it would b mentally tortured....bullied....and judged because of its parents actions for the rest of its life....people who want to defend them iv got a suggestion....go to ur doctor n get ur head checked
They're gonna kill the baby if it has birth defects.. A birth defect that would be caused by their own selfish sick and twisted ways. It's not the baby that needs to be terminated its this illegal, sick vile relationship that needs to be.
You have said only what I would have said, but more eloquently! Very well sais, thank you!!
I'm not saying this is right. But years ago people thought that being gay was wrong and now its right, because as long as they're in love its ok. I can see people being ok with this in a few years, and that's just really sad to me. This is wrong on so many levels, but I feel like incest will be accepted more later.
Totally agree, very well done.
From another Brit! ;)
So she loves her father sooo much and desperately wants his baby (who will be damned for the sins of his parents IN society anyway), BUT gods forbid if the child turns out to be 'defective' (her words). Poor child will never have and normal healthy life what with either being aborted or growing up with its mum and dad/grandad.
This is wrong.
these people are just sick!! just thinking of this wants to make me puke!! when that child is older he/she will have to go through hell! not only that, this is also incest!! what has the world come to??!! You people that say this is fine, think: ' they're influencing people to saying "its ok" ' n another thing even if the child has something wrong with it,i would still keep it!! killing an innocent child just because there was something wrong with it!! if u dont want the baby just give it to my mum! she would love the baby likes theres nothing wrong with him/her! im 14yrs old n i definatly know the difference!!! this is just sickening!!!
Are people actually condoning insest?
Are my eyes deceiving me?
I am totally flabbergasted that there are so many people who think as long as the door is closed that this is ok?
I am truly astounded and sickened by this. The idea of my husband and either of my daughters being intimate with him brings feeling of absolute disgust.
This is not right, even if they haven't seen each other before, and to bring a poor and innocent life into the messed up equation.
There is a reason insest is illegal!!
Seriously what next? Sex and breeding with animals as long as it's Behind closed doors? Sex with children......as long as it's behind closed doors? Because a lot of people have said "what goes on behind closed doors...etc"
Let's stop and think a moment about the things that started behind closed doors and at first didn't hurt anyone, then that act had to be followed by a more aggressive one to give a more intense thrill, and the pattern continues until only the most despicable and depraved acts have to be committed, hurting people in the process. I bet this the families of these two people are "hurting".
Before people sit here and say insest is ok, why don't you go see the doctors and families and even the children of other incestuous relationships. Why don't you talk to their therapists? Talk to the public services people who have had to deal with those cases and once a through research has been carried out, then come back and tell us that incest is ok.
It is illegal for a reason!
I don't think it is my position to judge them, but it is morally wrong and going public is bad for them as well as for the unborn child.. Father-daughter relationship should be much spiritual and respectful, not unetical and immoral..
I know lots of people who have grown up without their fathers and have met up with them years later, and none have said they wanted to jump into bed with them.
That's not the "only reason" people find it wrong. People find it wrong because it is.
You are misled on two points, friend. One: ' not many can claim to be culturally and genetically American,'i agree that america is too new to have a genetic identity all its own, however the cultural identity is distinct.
The second point is related to the first- you mistake American humor and games. The provocative statement ' thats why all Brits are ugly' is said with a smile and an unspoken invitation to either completely disarm the statement or sling a repartee disguised as an insult. He who keeps his cool, scores points. He who gets heated, has lost.
Your reply was well-written and thoughtful. You just didn't see the game.
Aah! Wat a world we are, where mother n child both came out of d same (man) sperm
Who really gives a shit? It's up to them what they do. Why do we love scandal so much? Good luck to them and their child-it's not my place to judge.
Can i just point out i am a 11 yr old girl in high schl and I know its wrong! She's wat a 20 something yr old women and she thinks its right 2 have a bby with her father! Not only is she putting the bby at risk she casually decides that shes going 2 have a termination if theres something wrong with the bby. If its less than perfect she cant keep it. Wat kind of sick people r they to do that?? Its rlly messed up and the person that going 2 suffer the most from it is the bby.
Glad someone has their head out of their arse and actually talks some fucking sense, it's about time!
It's no ones business but their own and if you picked up a book about genetics the possibility of a birth defect is the same for any other couple. They are taking a bigger risk if they both carry the dominant gene for a heath problem.
Well, incest has a much better chance at producing offspring than homosexuality. (discounting the condition of the offspring mind you)
This is sick....a father and daughter? These people need some sense knocked into them. And terminate the pregnancy? You mean kill the baby.
Yes. Giving life to a human being is not cruel. Change it? You mean kill them.
Thank you, I totally agree.
It's not up to us to "judge". It is wrong because it is objectively wrong, not because we say it is. Sick, and wrong.
adam and eve all over again..... but hey ain't this how we all got here??? i may not agree with it but isn"t this how life began in the first place??
So is he the father and grandfather???o_O
Lmfao they should both die wat the Fuck are they thinking wat loosers
This is pretty messed up, it's more weird that the man, fucked his partner, she became pregnant, he left, the woman (partner) died, so he fucked his daughter? Thats messed up. But putting something like 'Lmfao they should both die' is a bit excessive don't you think, their relationship is acceptable in modern society, but bringing a child into the world with an extreem chance of a Physical or Mental Defect doesn't make them horrible people, but I do think that Sperm/Eggdoner would be a better idea to create Genetic Diversity or Adoption? Not bringing an Inbred child into this already messed up relationship.
To each there own its no one else's business. I don't condone inbreading in humans but what you all don't understand is that its risky yes but its not a guarantee the child will be deformed. Farmers inbread cattle all the time to create a stronger bloodline and better cattle. Just saying...
I don't know what i find more disturbing- the article, or how many people seem to be ok with it. It's incest, a completely sick act which is illegal and rightly so.
If these people think they're "in love" then they need to get their heads checked. Simple as that. People don't simply "fall in love" with family members, there has to be something wrong with them. And of course the freakin baby's gonna have genetic defects if it was produced through INCEST, what planet are these people on? Idiots need to terminate it now.
Also do we have to bring religion into all this? Really? This is about basic common sense and morals, you don't have to believe in some bearded guy who lived in the sky in a book 1000s of years ago in order to have those.
this makes me sick
well, would you rather have the kid suffer their whole life? do you really think that IF there was a "god" up there that he would do that? if you truely believe that, then you have should take a long hard look on all of the bad things that are going on around the world. think about it, seriously. i think the world would be a better place if we all followed one unified religion, or even better yet, had none at all. the world would be a happier place and then maybe we could actually focus on things that actually matter. like i don't know, maybe global warming? hmm? because im probably not the only one that likes living on this planet, and i wont be the only one.
I think these people are sick and twisted. Not only are they advocating incest behaviour, they also think it's perfectly okay to terminate a pregnancy if there is a birth defect, not even giving it a second thought. A birth defect they are both well aware has increased chances of occurring because of their inabillity to controll them selves. A birth defect they are completely responsible for as i see it as they're obviously very aware of the risks their pregnancy would carry. Its utterly revolting.
Even the Amish try to not inbreed!
Why are these two people not locked up?
This is so sick
They have devils inside of therm the fuck with GSA
It's not normal to call someone dad and grandpa all in the same person... Incest fucks!!
Pure fuckery......straight to HELL both of you go........ Yuck, nausea, vomit.....
Here's the thing everyone: this is nobody's fault. They can choose to do what they wish no matter what we think is proper or not. God or no God, this is strange but not as bad as people seem to think. Imagine he wasn't her father, just an older man, and there was an immediate attraction. No different. She did not know this man as her father for 18 years. He may as well be a stranger. Think before you judge. And as for the churchgoers, you have no right to judge these people. That is god's right and nobody else's.
It's nasty they should be ashamed an its a sin
I wanna go unprotected in a whole lot of females but i know it's wrong. I just might contract HIV. Or be paying alot of child support. Point is even if you were to feel those disgusting urges, you know it's wrong. Who cares about what the world or god think... You know your wrong. Have some respect for your daughter and ultimately yourself. God and laws aside, we were born to know what's right and wrong. All judgement aside.....ewww
I wanna go unprotected in a whole lot of females but i know it's wrong. I just might contract HIV. Or be paying alot of child support. Point is even if you were to feel those disgusting urges, you know it's wrong. Who cares about what the world or god think... You know your wrong. Have some respect for your daughter and ultimately yourself. God and laws aside, we were born to know what's right and wrong. All judgement aside.....ewww
I wanna go unprotected in a whole lot of females but i know it's wrong. I just might contract HIV. Or be paying alot of child support. Point is even if you were to feel those disgusting urges, you know it's wrong. Who cares about what the world or god think... You know your wrong. Have some respect for your daughter and ultimately yourself. God and laws aside, we were born to know what's right and wrong. All judgement aside.....ewww
I wanna go unprotected in a whole lot of females but i know it's wrong. I just might contract HIV. Or be paying alot of child support. Point is even if you were to feel those disgusting urges, you know it's wrong. Who cares about what the world or god think... You know your wrong. Have some respect for your daughter and ultimately yourself. God and laws aside, we were born to know what's right and wrong. All judgement aside.....ewww
I wanna go unprotected in a whole lot of females but i know it's wrong. I just might contract HIV. Or be paying alot of child support. Point is even if you were to feel those disgusting urges, you know it's wrong. Who cares about what the world or god think... You know your wrong. Have some respect for your daughter and ultimately yourself. God and laws aside, we were born to know what's right and wrong. All judgement aside.....ewww
I wanna go unprotected in a whole lot of females but i know it's wrong. I just might contract HIV. Or be paying alot of child support. Point is even if you were to feel those disgusting urges, you know it's wrong. Who cares about what the world or god think... You know your wrong. Have some respect for your daughter and ultimately yourself. God and laws aside, we were born to know what's right and wrong. All judgement aside.....ewww
I wanna go unprotected in a whole lot of females but i know it's wrong. I just might contract HIV. Or be paying alot of child support. Point is even if you were to feel those disgusting urges, you know it's wrong. Who cares about what the world or god think... You know your wrong. Have some respect for your daughter and ultimately yourself. God and laws aside, we were born to know what's right and wrong. All judgement aside.....ewww
Poor baby. Not all problems show up in tests done on unborn babys. Im the parent of an intellectualy disabled child. maybe they should spend some time with intellectaly disabled kids and see first hand how hard there life is. The costs of all the support needed to raise these kids is huge. I dont know how much govt support is available in the US. Im hoping they have a huge bank balance to cover all the costs involved in raising these kids. they never move out and look after themselves, its a lifelong commitment, and after they have passed away, i hope they have other family to carry on caring for there child. Having a 'normal' child is hugely expensive - having a 'special, child is 100x more expensive. I just hope this child has the ability to have a full and meaningfull life, with the quality of life that most of us take for granted.
That's fuckin SICK!!!!!!!
if the story of Adam n Eve is true, then incest is what brought us here!
This is wrong in so many was feel sorry for the baby
If they really love each other then let them its their lives not urs
Wats with th haters
What is wrong with our world?
Oedipus, here you are !
That's what is wrong with the world now a days. People are too scared to say when something is wrong because people will think you are judging. They aretake wrong forwith this. Yes it is their lives however, it effects not only them but the child and their family. A sin is a sin and that's all there is to it.
Ok the the people who think its ok WTH is WRONG with you?? Did daddy sneak in to your room at night and that's why you think this is ok!? Now days wrong is right and right is wrong! People have NO morals anymore! This is so wrong!
You people that agree that there's nothing wrong I don't even want to know how you feel about filthy pigs who are attracted to little kids and claim their "born" that way.
So what does this kid wall him "dad" or " Grandpa" or does the kid say Grandma gave birth to me??? either way just disgusting, twisted and INCEST!
This is such inhuman act. Father figure is someone we respect and how can we even think of such a relationship. I have no words to describe them.worst than an animal.
So... I'm not even going to comment about the article. I'm going to comment about the comments... First of all, to all you people saying "it's wrong in God's eyes" please back up your statements with some proof? How do YOU know what's wrong in God's eyes? Incest happens all throughout the Bible. Also, isn't God the ultimate judge? Matthew 7:1-5 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." What makes me sick is people proclaiming to know what the creator of the universe thinks about something so insignificant.
I'm sorry, but this is wrong. It's one thing they want to have this sick affair going, but it's very unfair for the unborn child. Can they really guarantee that the child will never find out that her or his mother is also her or his half sister? This is plain wrong. I believe that they both must be suffering from some form of condition.
The fact that you are all talking about it suggests that there is something wrong with this story. It is wrong, morally wrong. If we always used the phrase "they are not harming others" then the whole world would be on chaos, riddled with people doing morally wrong acts. If a 72 year old and a 15 year old have sex then you all would be saying that is mortally wrong and not just illegal. Also, religion IS irrelevant as many people are not religious and can still recognise immoral acts. Stop being "do-gooders"
They shouldn't kill the baby because they decide to inbreed. And even if that chid doesn't have a birth defected when people in that child's school and comiuty find out about this that kid will be the target of every child in that school because of his or her parent having the realship they have. That kid will have many more prombles to worry about then a birth defect. And for the parents I don't have many words other then I hope they know what they are getting into and they shouldn't have made this pubilc
I am sorry, I must have been living under a rock. I had never realised that whatever our monarchy does is right and cannot be disputed. That in my opinion is a ridiculous argument. The royal family used to behead people, not only did they behead people, they beheaded innocent people for simple acts such as speaking out of turn or not agreeing with them. And because they were royal did that make it a morally acceptable? No of course it didn't and it was abolished for a reason. I do not agree that this situation is acceptable but even if I did I would still think that this argument on support of it is just as weak and ignorant as those who are using religion to support their views. Morality is innate and has nothing to do with what any form of authority suggests is acceptable. People, even if you do support this couple please don't support this as an argument, you are simply being fooled by its articulate frame.
Seriously for the people who think its ok - u have messed up heads, no morals and just as bad as these two sicko's!!! no matter what u say, its sick to be physically involved wit ur father - ur biological dad!! a relationship so pure and beautiful made so dirty, its not ok, its not normal. it is down right disgusting, they r jus as bad as terriosts-causing a bad example n o god makes my bloood boil., psychos!
Yuck thats fucken nasty and wrong
I dont see how this affects anyone but them
Where the hell is dcs in this and for this record God does exist he is in everything he is the one who gives u breath each and every morning he wakes u up with the sunshine and for u to sit there and say he doesn't exist may God have mercy on ur soul GOD BLESS YOU AND A WONDERFUL AND BLESSED DAY
Yes this is nasty but how do you no this is wrong in God's eyes? Dis he come down and land in your living room and say" hey that is wrong in my eyes!" NO! I highly doubt that is what happned. everyone in entitled to their own opinion but shut the hell up with God this and God that. If they wanna have a baby let them everyone deserves to be happy and what are the chances this will even work out? Probably not long at least. get over your selves.
Won't the dad be its uncle aswell and the mum also be It's sister?
How about their unborn baby? How would you like it if this was youre parents? No body asked you first and you be would stuck with it
And to add to that, do you think the same thing when domestic violence occurs? Do you think "well its only affecting them so what the hey?" Do you think thats a good example to be setting OTHER people?? In any case, anyone with any moral stance would say no, its not okay. And if you dont youre just as bad as them.
holy Jesus , should they not get arrested for this?
Well i guess it became my issue when they decided to post this to the media to get paid off for the story... They could have done whatever they want under some rock in some part of the world and i would not care less... Kids these days are messed up already because of some parents... Imagine if they start behaving like this was normal... Well i guess it would be all that extra push needed for those pedophile fathers out there to get start an affair.with their daughters... This saddens me is all
Get me a bucket !!!!!!! Very sad
this is disgusting... full stop. i cant imagine parents who not only are father and daughter but also want to bring a defected baby into the world. why would you perpesly want your baby to suffer and have problems just because you yourselves have problems and need to go somewhere were nutcracks go.......... http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=mental+institute&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
what message are you trying to share? do you wanna say that this is logical and others should follow U. Heavens help you buddy, this is another step of violation of the humanity and its regulations. You are not a father rather a sex maniac who would get into any damn hole for satisfaction. shame on you and the god is looking at this act, be ready to be punished soon for this act.
They should be quarrentine from society. They should be treated for not only them butalso for the sake of civiliztaion. i wonder where is the world going??? signs of doomsday!!
They should be quarrentine from society. They should be treated for not only them butalso for the sake of civiliztaion. i wonder where is the world going??? signs of doomsday!!
If you go down memory lane, when creation came in place, if Cain didn't sleep with her siblings, how would the world have populated this much? So, History is repeating itself plus, they've got their lives to live so, let them live it as they want and if you're not satisfied with it, who re you to complain? Did you create them both? Get a life and focus on your own damn life fellas....
wat I think is..dat garry cud obviously c her gf in penny whum he luvd so much..n wen he met her aftr a long tym..he obviously cud nt distinguish between d mixed feelns dat wer rushing thru him..he ws,remonded f his luv..he also knew its her daughter..obviously no dad wud evr think f dating his own daughter..bt hete v hv a,dad whu nevr reli got d opurtunity to spend tym wid his,daughter n take kr f her as a,dad..so dat filial bond between dem nevr develops..plus d grl s too young..she too cudnt diferentiate between wat she ws feeln n hw she shud feel..in dis case..i think..d emotionsl aspect overpowered der ability to reasn out waz gud or bad..yes mayb dey cud hv solvd dus problem..bt der feelns myt b too strong fr each odr..religion definitly hs nthn to do wid ds..wat ppl r professing abt d dad daughter relationshp hapens nly in an ideal wrld in normal cases..ds s a difrnt situation..as fr d baby..yes he myt b predisposed to sum diseases fr wich both myt b carrying a dominant gene..bt em mor worried abt d agony he myt hv to face wen he grows up..wil he unrstand wat his parents did??
Eat a Dick... ;)
Honestly it was no one business until they thought it was cute to air the shit out to the world. Now its everyone business who reads this. And they are definately making the child suffer but they could also raise their child to be ok with fucking family.........it is sick and anyone who agrees with the shit is obviously ok with fucking their family also........
You all are saying their relationship doesn't bother you, but you're lying to yourself. It affects at least one fiber of your being, otherwise you're out of your mind. Obviously there's countless problems, hence why it's ILLEGAL. And how dare them to say if it shows birth defects then they'll abort it. That's an improper use of abortions. Clearly there's too many idiots in this world.
Not saying I agree but all the holy rolling bible thumpers can't explain is how the earth was supposedly populated by one man and woman doesn't the bible say that adam and eve were created and everyone else comes from them
This is disgusting. The childs father will also be his grandfather. Its nothing to be proud of and certainly not something to share with the world. Shame on them for putting their unborn child through this. It has been all over the news and the poor child will be bullied and teased. Its illegal and they should both be arrested.
I think they should have thought about this cause when that kid grows up its going to have problems and think about what other kids will say that is just messed up if they are going to sleep together at least try and keep from having a kid that is like saying hey I am going to do something stupid and bring a killer into the world hello its going to be bad for the kid fuck the parents they are stupid
You people are sick and need to go ahead and end yourselfs
Obviously u are not killing ''somebody'' when it is only a foetus. I personally know a child who is disabled and if given the choice he wouldn't be here. Giving life to something is not cruel, but if you know that the existence in question is going to be tortuous, then that is cruel to give birth to a baby.
To the commenter above, religion does not come into this at all. Who is to prove that god exists? Worlds survived long before the bible and all that nonsense that's wrote in it so i would suggest that you accept that god is something made up for certain people to have comfort it. Nothing more.
Thats some fucked up shit!...wait till my wife...I mean sister, reads this story
This is extremely disturbing. I almost don't even believe this is true but I guess there really are disgusting vile human beings (more like animals) like that out there in this world. If you even think that this is somewhat acceptable, your psychotic, and there is absolutely something wrong with you in the head. How can you even have the desire to be intimately connected with a member of you own family, especially your own daughter. Your planning on fucking your own flesh and blood? I honestly feel sick to my stomach knowing there are such shitty people in this world. They shouldn't even broadcast these pieces of shit on the internet, they live a sad enough life. Perfect example of white trash, and dirtier than scum on a toilet seat in Penn Station. Absolutely disgraceful.
I find it funny how the majority of these comments are about how its a sin, bad, immoral, not right, go read a bible... yet... we where founded on incest if you "follow" the bible... As a nation we are all related one way or another, may it be distant or close.... I won't diss on this post and I won't encourage it for I am an open minded individual, and for those who may bad mouth me after this post I could care less because its just means I'm worth your time to comment on my post. Equal opportunity's, their life not mine.
Although I don't agree with this practice myself, it doesn't necessarily mean the baby WILL be born with physical or mental defects. There is of course a higher chance, but usually it takes generations of in-breeding to cause any real damage. Religious or not, right or wrong, let's try not to say hateful things about these people. We are all equally imperfect in different ways
these kinda people disgust me... fuck this world i wanna die!!
yuck! thats all i have to say..ewwwwwwww i just barfed
Agreed
Totally agree. The dude is clearly nothing more than a pervert. And shes just fucked up in the head
In this extremely messed up world we are living in where society have excerpted more and more wrong sexual acts being displayed and we have gone further & further from what is 'right' according to the bible, this is why you get things like this, there is probably more examples of things like this going on that we dont know about. This girl was probably craving the love of a father figure in her life, met him and confused that love for a sexual attraction, the dad I don't know and wouldnt like to say. This is just yet another example of the devil messing up lives. People want to allow more & more into our society 'coz we're living in modern times' so we go further & further away from the right way of living in the bible, and 'modern' people say the word of God doesn't mean anything yet judge people when they do things like this and it's seen as 'ok'... Time to really think about what sort of a world we want to live in really....
This is soooo wrong and why do alot of people think its ok its sick and unfair on there unborn baby they must have known befor haveing unprotected sex that there is a massive chanse that there could be something seriosly wrong with the baby and wouldnt this alsi make mum and baby like half brouther and sister or half sister and sister and wouldnt it make dad and baby grandad and granson or grandaughter so they aint only going to be a mum and das they gonna be a big sister and a grandad its messed up and wrong
Lol they r happy and obviously love each other so i feel people should back up and leave them alone as they are not telling you how to live your lives so stop telling them how to live there lives. so back up and live your own life and not theres
All this incest bible stuff is getting on my nerves so I have to comment! Adam & Eve incest.. Really??? They were the first humans on earth, we had to start somewhere. They did what they had to do then the next humans then the next etc etc... The problem of incest started when humans became selfish and full of sin and abused this and everything else. The people on here that don't know God don't understand how much of a spiritual battle is going on everyday since day one. The devil has a scheme and are using people in this way and laughing at them mocking and disrespecting God! Anyone that does this, condones this, and even argues about this is doing the work of the devil, it makes me mad that people are so oblivious to it. You are being scape goats to his works to bring the world into the chaotic and messed up place it is today. Before quoting stuff from the bible saying incest was in it and this that and the other.. Please educate yourself in the spiritual world, not just by reading words. And the people that think this is ok, really really disturbs me. Anything kept behind a closed door is an opening to the devil to control people's lives. We need to pray for the unborn child and it's future, and these people as it is as clear as day who is controlling them, if they knew God they would NOT be doing this, even people who dont know God know this is wrong, but I am going back to the spiritual battle again. This is serious stuff, and to me another clear indication we are in the end days. The days of Noah was all incest etc, and God sent a flood. The end days are going to worse than the time of Noah so I urge you all to educate yourselves to the spiritual world & understand what is going on. Praying for you all.
This should not be on the news or on the internet, because it is none of our fucking business what other people do in their lives, even if it may be deemed by some as morally wrong. We need to stop judging other people for their flaws! And we need to stop leaving our stupid ass 2 cents on every goddamn little "news-worthy" article about other peoples' lives. All of you who have said that they will be going to hell for incest or whatever, just know that you too will be joining them in hell for your belittling, judging, and cruel comments of other people that YOU DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW. SINCE NONE OF YOU KNOW THEM PERSONALLY, YOU CANNOT MAKE A COMMENT ON THEIR LIVES WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE A FUCKING STUPID, JUDGMENTAL,INSECURE HUMAN BEING. learn how to bring other people up, instead of promoting bringing other people down with your half-ass opinions, which are grounded on mere speculation of something you truly know nothing about!
you both are evil minded...dirty bitches...shit on you,,,crappy creatures....fuck you..
To above comment, i agree with you. People are so wrapped up in other peoples lives that they can't concentrate on their own. Nobody has a right to judge other people but these comments really show how small minded every one is
lol all you god fags if u belive in adam in eve and support it you support incest. They had kids those kids fucked eventually the earth was populated this thus the term "we are all brothers and sisters" have fun incest loving freaks
wow really people... all the fathers out there today that have never seen there daughter would u do that stuff to your daughter if u ever met her in the future... or the fathers and daughters out there that have met each other would u ever consider doing that... her mother is turning in her grave
I would say that they're doing this in the hopes that jerry springer or moretz will have them on their show order try to make some money in some way .they said there's a deformity they'll have it on abortion but if it's a deformity they can make money off of still keep it people like them should be euthanized !!!
for the person who said the English royal family were inbred and all brits are ugly for it, thats a very shallow comment which is untrue, the royal family married cousins no father daughter as this was illegal even for the royal family, this could also be due to biblical law in leviticus which states "The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness" (king james bible) therefore in daughter/father son/mother this is against the laws of England since the bible was written as these were the laws we followed.
next to kinda disregard my last comment... those who have said about God, funnily enough how have we become a huge population if we started as adam and eve? this would mean we are incestual and we are all brothers and sisters ect.
If this couple really loved each other, we wouldn't know about it, she tracked him down supposidly fell in love with him this could be an attachment disorder to be frank, but i don't believe what they are saying, due to telling the media father/daughters do fall in love, it is a psychological problem which is down to attachment, it normally happens when the daughter has never had fatherly love then the peternal love is then confused with sexual love, in feudian terms she's stuck in the Electra complex due to as a child she was unable to overcome the complex. that will be all :)
Somebody needs to go back to school and learn how to spell.
Yes its wrong...no its not our business but obviously theu wanted to tell the world about their relationship its in the fucking paper so they new this would happen!!!
Hopefully if they have a baby someone will alert child services, and they will take the baby and raise it elsewhere. Anyone willing to subject a child to the pain and humiliation they'd go through from other people torturing them, is not in the right mind to be raising and influencing a child... Not to mention the thousands of possible health risks they're allowing that baby to be subject to
CRAZY ASS! YOUR HELL WILL BE HOTTER THAN THE USUAL!!!!
For sure...at an early age the daughter was introduce to sexual feelings that she grew up it was the right thing to do In life...thays a shame for a father to countinue this with his own blood..Moral plays no game In this world today..this may be a first it went public,but im sure In other countrys all over the world their people In same problem....just feel sorry bout the child growing up In this world knowing that his/her mom and dad are bloods...how can he/she handle the pressure growing up?..
GRANDPA DADDY!!!!!!
Lmfao. Has anyone wondered how this affair started? I mean, did they just exchange a look & then lunge at each other for kisses, & it went on from there...or did one of them make a move? & which one? & why, & how? Heat of the moment, or properly discussed first? I mean c'mon - if one of them made a move, then they'd be making it risking being shot down & humiliated in quite a significant way by the other. They say immediate sexual attraction. So I'm guessing it was a more of a pinch on the bum by one, & a "Do that again" by the other, type moment. How did this happen exactly? It just all seems so strange, being that when they met it was a reunion of Father & child. Not a romantic internet hook up. So many questions! Lol.
& now I have yet another question - how do they know he is her Father? I'm sorry to sound rude, & I certainly don't mean to offend. But given the circumstances, I wonder if they had considered a paternity test at all. Kind of like - you never know, maybe my Mum mis-judged the timing, or was unfaithful, or something & therefore our relationship may not be incestuous. She is not alive to discuss it, & some things don't come out for many years. Also, I wonder - if they haven't had a paternity test yet, but he is definately her Father, then maybe someone can convince them to get a test & tell them he is not her Father. Would their affair fizzle out at that point, I wonder? Like are they in love with each other, or in love with being in love with a close relative? Lol. Maybe I just don't know enough about this 'disease' that's been mentioned to realise that this question would be answered in the description of the disorder. Surely it would be interesting to see the results of this psychological test I suggested here all the same though. Lol.
Omg can you please learn how to spell. I cant understand what the fuck you're saying! And for the guy who posted about going unprotected in females a billion times...we get it, post once we heard you the first. Whatever.
ewwwww thats jst weird gross disturbing etc. how does a daughter fall in love with her father!! better yet how does a father fall for his lil girl!! i dont care what the circumstance is there is NOTHING OKAY ABOUT THAT!! And to have a baby together thats jst wrong so mommy is not only mommy but is the babies sister and daddy is not only daddy but grandpa to!! OMGOSH WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO!!
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